Charles, Matt, and Gregg are joined by Carissa Baldwin-McGinnis to talk about the experience of being a foster parent, how trauma affects the family and how to find kinship in a divided 21st-century society. Rev. Carissa Baldwin-McGinnis is Associate Rector of St. Andrews Episcopal Church in the Heights, Houston, and is the parent of two adopted children. Cultivating Families is the foster care nonprofit mentioned in this episode.

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